MRAs and misogynistic women

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The most bizarre alliance is the alliance of MRAs and misogynistic women and anti-feminist. MRAs defends and love any misogynistic or anti-feminist women. One problem is the reason why these women are misogynistic is different from the reason MRAs are misogynistic. The main reason these women are misogynistic is they are jealous of other women. The main reason MRAs are misogynistic is they are insane and they cannot get laid : they are angry beta males. What MRAs want is s submissive wife and they want to be able to cheat her with every woman on sight. Conservative jealous women do not want that husbands be able to cheat their wife and most of them have been influenced by feminism, so they don’t want women to be submissive wife. So, usually, this alliance between conservative jealous women and MRAs do not last long. A good example of that is what happened on Hookingupsmart. Susan Walsh is jealous of younger women, so she accepted MRAs because MRAs hated young women, but that didn’t last and the end, she kicked out MRAs one by one.

Another weirdness is transgender women joining MRAs. There’s a conflict between transgender women and feminists and many transgender women are anti-feminist because many feminists don’t like transgender women, so MRAs like Paul Elam want to recruit them. But transgender women don’t care about angry beta males. So I don’t think it will last long.

And furthermore, now there is a conflict between MRAs and anti-feminist, traditionalist women. Traditionalist women want men to be protector and providers. MRAs don’t want to be providers, they are basement dwellers. And MRAs don’t want to be protector either : They think that all rape accusations are false and Paul Elam said : “Should I be called to sit on a jury for a rape trial, I vow publicly to vote not guilty, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that the charges are true.”. They want to legalize rape.

What’s funny is that when MRAs are rejected by these misogynistic and anti-feminist women, they feel it’s a betrayal : for example, Rollo Tomassi compared Susan Walsh to Judas Iscariot

69 thoughts on “MRAs and misogynistic women”

  1. Yep. Yep. Yep.

    It’s a pathological cluster-fuck.

    Also, [funnily] these women are seeking out ‘male attention’ by doing this which is exactly what the MRA types are accusing women of being [i.e. ‘attention whores’], so there’s a real weird ‘disconnect’ there. They’ll give an ‘attention whore’ a ‘free pass’ if she’s on ‘their side’. *eye-roll to hell and back*

  2. Just Julia, if you are still reading, you might like Elizabeth Esther’s blog. (Raincloud was recently banned)

    Coming up soon from Sunshine…outrage that estranged husbands with restraining orders against them have to surrender their guns…

  7. I used to read an international political forum many years ago in which there were a large number of Indian posters. The Sikhs were especially racist. They would call the Hindus names that no Westerner would ever think of posting there, names like “Dirty Black Ugly Hindu” and the like. Also, Indian and Pakistani arranged marriage ads always specific ‘light skin” as one of their “must-haves” for a future husband or wife.

    It really opened my eyes and it’s also (in large part) why I don’t believe in all the liberal screaming about “racism” in the West.

  8. Who is Desi?

    By the way, speaking of MRAs and misogynistic women, Sunshine has a post today about how evil feminists want the U.S. to offer paid maternity leave and quality daycare. She’s outraged b/c this would allow the State to brainwash our children and destroy our families.

    She also warns that daycare has led to an increase in mental illness among children. All of her MRA followers seem to agree with her. No one has challenged her opinions.

    I’m tempted to come out of lurking mode and post, but her fans would probably just attack me as an evil, godless woman so it wouldn’t be worth adding my 2 cents.

  9. While I can relate to Elizabeth Esther b/c of our similar backgrounds, I think she’s a bit of a wimp. Sunshine confronted Elizabeth a while back b/c she had written that when Christian men objectify women, especially when preaching, it’s a form of misogyny.

    Instead of defending her beliefs and attempting to educate Sunshine, Elizabeth just deleted her comments and closed the post to further comments.

    It was a lost teachable moment in my opinion.

  10. Who is Desi?

    Desi is an anti-MRA troll and Hindu nationalist. She has constantly trolled MRAs since a few years under a myriad of various IDs. She was constantly banned and she constantly came back. She trolled them so much, that at one point, people on some MRAs blog thought every new poster was her.

    She used to hang out here, but we discovered she was constantly lying to us and she was involved in many shitstorms and flame wars (she’s a racist and is obsessed by India) with other posters here. And she was changing her IDs at every posting, so when someone new was showing up, we always thought it was her. For all these reasons, I banned her.

    Now Desi is posting on Hookingupsmart under the name Plain Jane or PJ.

  11. To be fair, she was only racist against white people (she was obsessed with skin color and never passed up an opportunity to comment on how ugly our “pasty” skin and “think hair” is.)

    I think she was racist against white people because of the skin color obsession in Indian Subcontinent culture. So she resented us a lot, but we didn’t start the skin color caste system in her culture. She was especially contemptuous of blonde women.

    She has an American passport and lives most of the time in the U.S., but she would constantly ridicule and slam Western culture and especially American culture and brag about how Indian culture is so superior. We listened to this crap from her for three years.

    So sometimes when I see information that makes India look bad, I do feel a little schadenfreude :)

  13. She also likes to impersonate white people and then make anti-white comments while doing it. She told me on Lady Raine’s forum that she was a native-born American of Finnish ancestry (who somehow unaccountably was obsessed with India and Indians).

    I actually fell for it for quite a while, and feel like a total chump because of it.

  14. Completely off topic, but since you sent me that link to Eivand Berg’s blog, I’ve been having nightmares. Scary stuff! Though great potential material for someone wanting to write the new “Silence of the Lambs.”

  15. Nice to meet you here, La Strega. Really dig your blog, mami!

    Don’t worry about going ‘off-topic’ around these here parts, our gracious blog host isn’t a ‘topic Nazi’. lol
    —-

    Maria San, I hope you’ve been enjoying your time away! Wuv you! ♥♥♥

  16. Oh Ange, I got sick in LA from all the pollution and got terrible sinus problems and then couldn’t walk because my balance was off from my ears being plugged up. I spent a lot of time in bed reading my Kindle.

    Feeling a little better, but still a bit dizzy.

  17. On noes! Sorry to hear that, Maria. I’ve been to L.A. before, it’s truly as awful as you say. The smog is just NAST.

    Sometimes my ears leak sinus fluid when my allergies get really bad (and my eyes tear up constantly).

    The only thing that cured my allergies for almost 3 years straight [in my early twenties after I gave birth to dot], was going on the ‘candida diet’, but, that diet is so strict, there’s no way I could do it again at my age. It’s very low-carb to the extreme. Me minus carbs = NO ENERGY! DOA! lol

    That’s scary about the balance situation because of the ear clogging (cotton ears ain’t no dang fun). Not sure if this remedy might help [?]:
    http://traveltips.usatoday.com/unstop-ears-after-flying-airplane-102156.html

    Have you ever had a clogged ear and suddenly warm water gushes out and you can hear better and didn’t even realize your ear was clogged? That’s almost orgasmic! ha-ha! :lol:

    Feel better, punkin’! You are in my thoughts and best wishes!

  18. Oh thanks Ange! Actually I’m doing much better, and I had an excuse to stay in bed for several days and I finished reading two whole books!

    Hope all is well on your end!

  19. Yep, I’ve had that ear thing happen to me, usually an hour or so after going swimming. LOL!

  20. Glad you’re feeling better! Staying in bed and reading is one of my favorite pastimes! ;) Reading can be so addictive. I have a hard time stopping myself once I’m interested in reading about something. I have a huge collection of e-books which I will never be able to realistically read within my lifetime even if I read 22/7 and lived to be 200! lol! At least hoarding stuff on a teensy hard drive isn’t as bad as ‘real life’ hoarding. YIKES> :shock:

    Oh yazz, after a shower or a swim, that warm water spooge gushing outta da ear-hole is amazin’! ALL HAIL THE ‘EARGASM’ money shot! :D

  22. LOL!

    Gotta go. Looking at the computer makes me dizzy still.

    Hugs, Ange and everybody else!

  24. I love this music video:

    The shoulder pads are fucking EPIC. EPIC! Joan Crawford wire-hanger wielding EPIC!

    Oh YES!

    MOISTUREEEEEEE!

  25. The aforementioned music video totally gives me a “The Crying Game” vibe…(the movie and its premise therein, not the song)…speaking of said song:

    Gah. What was life like before Google & Youtube?

    *picks nose and ponders Whos in Whoville*

  27. Guys if a boy (ok, man) picks on you a lot and doesn’t approve of anyone you date and is like….”mean,” does that mean he likes you?

    I have a coworker that’s like that, but he’s kind of like that with a lot of girls (only has female friends). But he acts weird when he sees me when he’s with other people….but he’s also a great friend and he protects me from creeps.

    One night we were both drunk and I kissed him and he kissed me back for 2 secs before telling me to go to my room because I was drunk.

    This was months ago.

    I apologized to two days later and he turned RED LIKE A TOMATO. Fyi he’s really tan so that’s a big deal.

  29. No more: stop trolling! :P

    I watched an episode of new girl last night about losing virginity (IT WAS HILARIOUS YOU SHOULD ALL WATCH NEW GIRL), and Zooey Deschanel’s character talks about it, and it’s this elaborate story where at one point she starts to hook up with this guy who can’t get an erection, he says it’s because antidepressants, and in the morning (they still haven’t had sex) he starts crying that he thinks he’s gay. I’m afraid this will happen with the other boy I’ve been seeing lol. But straight guys can have a hard time with that….nerves and antidepressants etc. I was trying to rationalize in my head that he wouldn’t take me out on dates and pay for me if he were gay, but I have a gay best friend that pays for me all the time despite the fact that I insist otherwise…it’s SO WEIRD. Try to explain that, manosphere! (He’s from another country so I wonder if he still feels like he should live up to some sort of ideal manhood, but he’s effeminate, like when he came out to me he was surprised I hadn’t realized it sooner, because he acknowledged he was effeminate and it was “obvious”).

  30. The Man Troubles of Stormy (just kidding, baby girl)!

    He might be gay (the no-erection guy), but most likely it’s just a case of being young, awkward, unsure, insecure, blah, blah. Same for your other guy friend who acts weird. They don’t know what the hell they want and the youth of today are taking longer to mature, for a bunch of reasons that are not all their fault.

    This is why the Manosphere (and Susan Walsh) tells young women to get with the older guys because they’re so mature and savvy about life, and they’re looking to get MARRIED because they’re “dads, not cads.” Yeah, uh huh.

  31. Stormy,

    Male sexual dysfunction isn’t that unusual. It could be related to stress, low testosterone or being overweight. Or, as someone suggested, it could be performance anxiety, especially if you are very attractive.

    My hubby struggles with it from time to time and oral sex will usually help him get a good enough erection for intercourse (hope that’s not too graphic NMMNG).

    If you are thinking about seeing him long term, I’d suggest that he make an appointment with his doctor to see if there’s a physical reason.

    Sunshine Mary sometimes has interesting sex advice on her blog, if you want a fundie/MRA perspective. . I’m not into that submissive/dominance stuff though.

  32. stormy May 18, 2013 at 9:02 am

    Guys if a boy (ok, man) picks on you a lot and doesn’t approve of anyone you date and is like….”mean,” does that mean he likes you?

    It can be. Especially if that’s his ‘asshole game’. ;p

    I have a coworker that’s like that, but he’s kind of like that with a lot of girls (only has female friends). But he acts weird when he sees me when he’s with other people….but he’s also a great friend and he protects me from creeps.

    Once in the ‘friend-zone’…forever in the friend-zone?

    One night we were both drunk and I kissed him and he kissed me back for 2 secs before telling me to go to my room because I was drunk.

    That was actually the decent and right thing of him to do. When you’re inebriated, you’re compromised and it would have been really sleazy of him to take advantage of you sexually at that point.

    This was months ago.

    Cock Carousel in a holding pattern? ;)

    I apologized to two days later and he turned RED LIKE A TOMATO. Fyi he’s really tan so that’s a big deal.

    He also could feel really uncomfortable and conflicted about you being a co-worker. Playing patty-cake with co-workers can be a huge, job-costing mistake. I once dated a co-worker’s boyfriend and when I broke up with him his sister never forgave me for breaking his heart and I had to quit because she made life HELL for me after that.

    Tread carefully with romance at work. :shock:

  34. Gah. I was just thinking about how after I broke up with him, he’d come to my work place under the guise of ‘paying a visit to his sister’ only to stare moonishly at me for hours with sad puppy-dog eyes and his sister would constantly harass me into ‘just talking to him…give him a chance…he loves you’. Ugh! Nightmarish.

    The thing is, he was really immature even though he was a year older than me and it was a total turn-off. He was also a virgin and he wouldn’t release the hound!

  35. I suppose this sounds overly cautious and boring, but dating / hooking up / screwing co-workers is a big NO. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it turn out well. And the gossips have a field day. There’s a good reason some large companies don’t even allow it — or you have to sign documentation. The work place is for work; if you’re lucky and you know how to have boundaries, you might make a long lasting friendship or two but that’s about it.

    I’ve seen plenty of intense friendships (same sex) hit the shit fan, usually over some thoughtless remark or act, and it’s as painful as a romantic breakup.

    Why does the woman always have to be the one to “give him a chance?” It’s like we’re supposed to finishing raising these childlike men.

    Boyz to Men? Not my job.

  38. He’s graduating! And he handed in his keys, so while we’ll be living in the same building, he’s technically not working.

    The kind of job I have is one where you live where you work. Things get complicated. I heard from someone who had this job two years ago (for three whole years!) that one time, a coworker let slip he was dating a resident. The supervisor gave him a talk, mostly to tell him not to let that complicate things, but she didn’t tell him not to do it. It’s a gray area. It’s not a nono…but it has the potential to complicate things.

    Sometimes in our job people start dating each other or stuff like that. It can complicate things….but I’ve never seen anything like that because I think most people are cautious about initiating things.

    We’re placed in a unique position where we’re the only upperclassmen in the building, in an area of campus where most upperclassmen have the same job we have, and we live in the same space, so friendships form, and things can get intense. It’s literally a matter of balancing work and life, because you come home from classes and your job starts. The posting says you are expected to put in ~20 hours a week but it feels full time. So your coworkers in your building (or other people with the same job from other buildings) become your BFF’s really quickly.

    Anyway, this guy is weird. He hates being hugged or touched in any form. Like if someone pokes him, he cringes.

    BUT. After a few drinks he gets cuddly. He’ll even grind on girls. DX (the ones he knows). he’s never had a college girlfriend. We all thought he was gay, but then we asked him when he was drunk and he said he’s not.

  39. Thanks Julie, Just Julia, Angel for all your advice! haha. You guys are awesome (and hilarious). Sorry I just came back here with boy troubles….

    And I agree that this generation struggles to mature. I feel like I have the maturity of a 12 year old sometimes. Probably because I do.

    But I’ve seen it with my residents. This past week has been move outs (finally got rid of my entire floor woot!) and there was one kid who struggles with just managing things on his own without his mom doing it for him. He made an appointment to check out of his room with me really late one day, which I thought was weird. This appointment was made almost two weeks in advance. The night before the appointment, he wanted to move it several hours earlier. I told him I COULD NOT at that time, I had a job interview.

    I gave him another time that was later, but not that time, and still earlier than the original time. Lo and behold, in the middle of the interview, his mother starts calling me freaking out.

    He told her that he told me that the morning would be okay (I never told him this, I was booked all morning with appointments of people who actually planned when they were going to leave with their parents), and that I must have not gotten the message.

    Typical, “I’m going to blame everyone but who’s really at fault–myself, and then get my mom to clean up my mess.”

    They left three hours late for their eight hour road trip…and his mother has bad arthritis….just inconsiderate. And now I look like an asshole to his family. I’ve watched this kid grow a bit, do more things on his own, actually talk to people (extremely bad social anxiety, can’t make eye contact, struggles to make friends, but desperately WANTS to), but there are still things he hasn’t done.

    Like….pack and move on his own.
    Like…do his own laundry.
    Like…book a flight.
    Like…speak to a professor.
    Like….go to office hours.
    Like…speak to his dean.

    etc.

    I hope he’ll be at that point when he graduates because his ivy league degree will be useless if his mother has to apply to jobs when he graduates and has to go to interviews for him. smh.

    I don’t resent this kid…he just stresses me out. For some dumb reason. I care too much.

  40. I’ve watched this kid grow a bit, do more things on his own, actually talk to people (extremely bad social anxiety, can’t make eye contact, struggles to make friends, but desperately WANTS to), but there are still things he hasn’t done.

    Like….pack and move on his own.
    Like…do his own laundry.
    Like…book a flight.
    Like…speak to a professor.
    Like….go to office hours.
    Like…speak to his dean.

    There’s a lot of guys like that in social anxiety/phobia forums. I hope he will never find the manosphere.

  42. Stormy, maybe you should just casually say to these guys, “Sometimes I think the only men I’m interested in are gay.” See how they respond. ha-ha ;)

  43. No more,

    the kid has his own bit of sarcasm and sass that slips out when he’s not consumed by anxiety. It’s hilarious, actually. Something tells me the manosphere just wouldn’t appeal to him.

  44. Mr. No More, over the weekend I read two posts, including all the comments, that made me really, really sad. When I first started following the blog I read a lot of the old posts. I am SO SORRY if my anger & outrage at the manosphere at all negatively effected the tone of your blog.

    Being angry is a crappy feeling & I do not know what is the matter with me that I would deliberately read something that is only going to upset me. I do enjoy making fun of them though and that seems to help.

    Mr. No More, do you have a copy of Thuggie’s blog post about you with the comments? That would be amusing.

    And Stormy, I hope that it is okay to even ask you this: have you heard from Otis & is he okay? Thanks.

  45. Mr. No More, over the weekend I read two posts, including all the comments, that made me really, really sad. When I first started following the blog I read a lot of the old posts. I am SO SORRY if my anger & outrage at the manosphere at all negatively effected the tone of your blog.

    What did you read that made you so sad ?

    Mr. No More, do you have a copy of Thuggie’s blog post about you with the comments? That would be amusing.

    It’s here :

    http://web.archive.org/web/20120929030703/http://curmudgeonloner.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/why-are-women-so-unhaaaappy/

  46. Ralphie May 19, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    I am SO SORRY if my anger & outrage at the manosphere at all negatively effected the tone of your blog.

    Huh? Huh? Huh? That’s part of the reason Daniel posts on his blog! He kind of took the torch up after Lady Raine quit her blog. Dan’s blog isn’t solely about poking a stick at the wimpy poo bear that is the ‘manosphere’, but, that’s a huge part of the premise behind it.

    Since the majority of Dan’s regulars are women, there’s bound to be some sadness and bitchiness from time-to-time. Blaming yourself for any mood-shift here is like blaming yourself for the winds blowing pollen up your nose and making you sneeze. ;)

    If you feel like nagging about assholes here…PLEASE DO! lolz

  47. The last text otis sent me said “miss you ma.” I said I missed him too and no response. :(

  50. I’m not reading the blog everyday and you damn well know it, No More. I check this blog here and there to read the new posts, but I don’t come everyday and I don’t spend much time here. It takes like 10 seconds to read the new posts.

  51. If Oats is reading here, then he’s read your posts about Roosh’s disgusting body odor, chronic bad breath and STD infestations. All things that Roosh admitted in his own words.

    Does Oats still have a homo-crush on Douche now? I wonder!

  53. PS to Ralphie: thanks for your concern. I’m fine. I’m just not posting because No More and I have irreconcilable differences.

  54. Otis you are obviously reading here every day because you responded to No More’s post immediately. If you were only reading a few times you most likely would not have seen it.

  56. He just happened to post at the time I was reading. He can post the IP logs and it will show that I’m not checking every day.

  57. What do you think about Roosh’s posts about his radioactive body odor, etc. Do you still think he’s the super stud?

  58. Roosh has to bathe in baking soda every day to get rid of his radioactive stank.

    Roosh has chronic bad breath.

    Roosh has had numerous STD infections and is a prime candidate for HIV or HPV-caused cancer.

    Roosh dresses like he steals his clothes from the local homeless shelter.

    Roosh is covered in matted man-fur.

    Roosh does not have a job, even though he is in his mid-30s.

    Is Roosh really “the catch” that every girl dreams of?

    I think not.

  61. Roosh has a ridiculous hair cut that looks like an 8-year-old kid slapped a bowl on his head and cut around it with kiddie scissors.

  62. P.S. Philly sucks!

    I switched to the Chiefs, remember? I fucking loathe Chip Kelly. Hope the Eagles go 0-16.

  65. He will have a near-perfect record. That’s because he only throws 12 passes per game! The rest of the time, he either hands it off, goes down, or heads for the sideline.

  66. What do you think of Roosh’s stanky body odor? Still think he is the greatest super stud in the world?

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